...or fall appart with some serious damage to (both) guilds.
You get to see how one guild compares to another with regards to loot, and organisation. Its all based on trust, and sticking to your word, break it and you lose all honour you earned.
You cannot bring internal guild looting rules to the table of a co-op raid and expect the other guild to accept it and roll with it. Especially a EPGP system or DKP one.
You have to keep it basic, as the concept of a co-op raid is…simply an organised pug.
And organised pug is about as organised as you will get with looting rules. 2 Epics max, and because your co-operating, you have to make consessions for Alts, as in being…they can have whats left over, NOT roll along side main roles within the raid, IE main characters.
The decision came to end the co-op was based on 2 things, 2 of their members leaving their guild due to their internal looting system, and secondly having a dis-regard for another guild. In respect of thats system.
If you find yourself arguing about whether an Alt can roll alongside your main tank, healers, and dps classes who are struggling to gear up to the same level as your top 5 dps on recount, ..something is fundamentally ....wrong in perspective of the co-operation, you may aswell pug in that respect.
Ex Paladin Tank Vanilla WoW, Guild Management & Casual Raiding (Ex Tuatha Dé Danann - Khadgar EU), World Of Warcraft now Vanilla Elysium - waiting for Classic
Tuesday, 16 June 2009
Thursday, 11 June 2009
That's better
After my previous post, I gained a sense of *ugh* about levelling my paladin, gearing and rep etc etc. The guild still has a sense of..wheres our tank tonight (not directed at me ofc) but we seem to be using a lot of Off-spec folk to fill in the spots for Main Spec tanks. Lots of RL reasons, so no-body can complain, and nobody hasn’t either, but im distracting myself now from what I intended to write.
I paid for a character re-customisation, changed my name and made Nuadah, look like Nad. And to be honest about it, I was much happier seeing that, without logging into the game…strange huh?
I like to have a sense on continuity, and I guess others within the guild do too. So the name was changed to Nadiastorm (*Note the funny i*) which is name more familiar inside and outside of TDD. (And I refer back to the earlier blogs about association, names and familiarity).
Guild-wise the progress of WOTLK continues in a very progressive and steady course, with very little left to get from Naxx 10 from individuals, im pointing the Wednesday (Hug a Guildie) to OS 10 first, then starting on Naxx afterwards for a head start for Tarnya's Thursday event. The following week will be Malygos (If we can get some instant group heals & HoT along for the vortex stage), otherwise it will be a repeat of OS / VoA and Naxx again from the week before.
Our co-op raids have increased from Monday's to both Monday's and Tuesday's. Last Monday saw a clear of 2 wings, leaving Military and Construct left over. Those looking to see the 2 end bosses of Naxx will be able to on Tuesday's…and they had better read up on them.
In a discussion with Tarnya last night, along with Saaj and Trivia, we talked about changing the scene weekly. Instead of posting the regular set days of 10 mans, to mix them up a bit more and add some variety, and I quite agree..how bored would you get plugging on through the week with the same raid on each day, every day of the week. /yawn
We set a simple ruling on Co-Operative loot, 2 epics max each per night, and an open roll to all (inc those who have 2 epics already during the night) for unwanted epic loot. No EPGP, or DKP system, no red tape of debate. Simple fast and in the long term, fair
I paid for a character re-customisation, changed my name and made Nuadah, look like Nad. And to be honest about it, I was much happier seeing that, without logging into the game…strange huh?
I like to have a sense on continuity, and I guess others within the guild do too. So the name was changed to Nadiastorm (*Note the funny i*) which is name more familiar inside and outside of TDD. (And I refer back to the earlier blogs about association, names and familiarity).
Guild-wise the progress of WOTLK continues in a very progressive and steady course, with very little left to get from Naxx 10 from individuals, im pointing the Wednesday (Hug a Guildie) to OS 10 first, then starting on Naxx afterwards for a head start for Tarnya's Thursday event. The following week will be Malygos (If we can get some instant group heals & HoT along for the vortex stage), otherwise it will be a repeat of OS / VoA and Naxx again from the week before.
Our co-op raids have increased from Monday's to both Monday's and Tuesday's. Last Monday saw a clear of 2 wings, leaving Military and Construct left over. Those looking to see the 2 end bosses of Naxx will be able to on Tuesday's…and they had better read up on them.
In a discussion with Tarnya last night, along with Saaj and Trivia, we talked about changing the scene weekly. Instead of posting the regular set days of 10 mans, to mix them up a bit more and add some variety, and I quite agree..how bored would you get plugging on through the week with the same raid on each day, every day of the week. /yawn
We set a simple ruling on Co-Operative loot, 2 epics max each per night, and an open roll to all (inc those who have 2 epics already during the night) for unwanted epic loot. No EPGP, or DKP system, no red tape of debate. Simple fast and in the long term, fair
Thursday, 4 June 2009
Half Term is up, and the result is...
I have to say…I didn’t think it would come to this. I have spent numerous times contemplating it, over the months. Debating on this blog and in everyday life, while at work and so on and so on. After struggling for some years, and persevering through difficulties, and decisions, I think it is safe to say I have finally come to the conclusion after seeing the duel spec option within the game. It will take some time and some stealth pug's to get to the same level as TDD, and that could take some time over-all, but questing outside of the guild and pugging shouldn’t be a problem, never has been really. And outside of the Monday Wednesday ad Thursday, theres ample time to play catchup.
With enough experience from Nuadah, Nadiastorm shouldn’t have much problem tanking the 5 mans and raiding pugs in LFG. Challenge is, how quickly can it be done?
The DK is certainly an awsome class. Many of its abilities as a DPS class, and Tanking class make it an astonding all rounder, however its complicated by minor nerfs, and the "curse up & spam" a finishing move. Retribution seems far simpler and easier to rotate without growning a 6th finger on my left hand. I have'nt got used to the "1 hand on keyboard, and the other holding down the left and right button for moving" setup of playing before, and lthough with time I have got used to it, it does feel,….alien. If I had a chocie between a dps DK and Ret paladin, I think I would opt for paladin due to the familiar rotation of skills and timings. To play the DK well, I feel you need to be really commited to it. And I am not, so while i lead and envolve myself in raids i will be picking up the unwanted items only.
With enough experience from Nuadah, Nadiastorm shouldn’t have much problem tanking the 5 mans and raiding pugs in LFG. Challenge is, how quickly can it be done?
The DK is certainly an awsome class. Many of its abilities as a DPS class, and Tanking class make it an astonding all rounder, however its complicated by minor nerfs, and the "curse up & spam" a finishing move. Retribution seems far simpler and easier to rotate without growning a 6th finger on my left hand. I have'nt got used to the "1 hand on keyboard, and the other holding down the left and right button for moving" setup of playing before, and lthough with time I have got used to it, it does feel,….alien. If I had a chocie between a dps DK and Ret paladin, I think I would opt for paladin due to the familiar rotation of skills and timings. To play the DK well, I feel you need to be really commited to it. And I am not, so while i lead and envolve myself in raids i will be picking up the unwanted items only.
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